Today, my pets, I would like to share with you another controversial topic in the DBZ verse. The topic, of Broly vs Cell. The Legendary Super Saiyan vs the very combination of all the Z fighters and a bit more. Once again, I shall give the back story, and the powers behind each one, and finally explain who I think wins the match.
Broly: Broly was born the same day that Goku was, or around the same day. He was tormented in the incubator thingy next to Goku, by the proud Z fighter's crying, day in and day out. This caused a deep hatred for Goku, something he kept for the rest of his life. Broly was also born with a power level of 10,000, the very power that rivaled that of King Vegeta. So naturally, Vegeta saw this as a threat, and forced execution for the infant and his father Paragus. They survived, and when Frieza destroyed Planet Vegeta, Broly guarded himself and his father in a barrier, and drifted off into space, to live their life, of conquering planets and causing pain everywhere they went. Soon, Paragus thought of a plan to get back at the Royal Family. He travels to Earth to convince Vegeta to take down a "Super Saiyan" causing problems in the South Galaxy. They go to this planet "New Planet Vegeta", a planet on course for destruction by a comet, for their base of operations. His son, Broly, is there, and when Goku shows up to check out the situation, Broly starts to lose a part of his self. Paragus manages to calm him down, but not for long. In the middle of the night, Broly attacks Goku, causing Goku's suspicions about Broly being the Legendary Super Saiyan to spike even more. The next day, when Vegeta gets fed up of not finding anything out, Broly begins losing himself once more, finally letting go to become the Legendary Super Saiyan. Paragus is proud that his son will finally avenge them. Vegeta loses all his fighting spirit, while Broly effortlessly pummels Goku, Trunks, and Gohan. Piccolo arrives, and heals all of them, joining in the fight, but Broly continues to mock the Z fighters, still beating the snot out of them. Vegeta finally finds himself, and joins the fight, only to be defeated soon after. Broly then crushes his father because Paragus wants to leave him to die on the planet. Goku faces the Super Saiyan, but is easily beaten, until the Z fighters lend him his energy, so Goku can punch Broly into submission and leave him to die for the Comet. However, Broly survived and found his way to Earth, getting knocked out and sleeping for 7 years in the ice deep in a mountain range. Goten and Trunks begins their search for the Dragon Balls, and Goten begins crying, waking up the Legendary Super Saiyan once more. Broly begins pummeling both Goten and Trunks, and before he could kill the little brother, Gohan steps in and begins his fight with Broly. Both transform into their most powerful forms and begin their match, Broly obviously being the stronger one. Broly starts the threaten the universe, so Gohan and Goten retaliate with a Kamehameha, being overpowered once more, until Goten wishes Goku to help them out, and he does, allowing them to launch Broly into the sun, killing him for good.
Cell: Cell was created by Dr. Gero, as the ultimate creation to defeat his nemesis, Goku. Cell was created by infusing cells from all the fighters he could get info on. Piccolo, Vegeta, Frieza, and King Cold. This created a being that needed to absorb 17 and 18 to become the most dangerous creature in the universe. Once he murdered Future Trunks and took his time machine, he begins to stalk the androids, easily absorbing 17 to increase his power and become Semi-Perfect Cell. Vegeta arrives and begins to pummel Cell, but Cell is convinced he would win if he absorbed 18. Vegeta complies and helps Cell out, succeeding in his goal. Perfect Cell become much more powerful than Vegeta, and easily beats him and his son. He then decides to hold a tournament, to lure out the strongest fighters and prove his power. Goku is his first contender and after a long and tiring fight, Cell is victor, when Goku quits and wants his son to fight the monster instead. Gohan is outclassed first, but Cell is taught that Gohan has a latent power inside him, and Cell wants to awaken it. Spawning several Cell Jrs to cause as much pain to Gohan's friends as possible, and killing Android 16, Gohan's power awakens and Cell tries to fight this new and improved boy, only to be severely outmatched. In a desperate attempt which fails, Cell ends up spitting out Android 18, and threatens to self destruct and blow up the world, forcing Goku to teleport him to King Kai's planet, killing both of them at the same time. Cell returns, more powerful, gaining a Zenkai from the Saiyan Cells inside him, and absorbing Goku's powers. This is explained by the fact that he has Frieza's cells inside him, allowing him to function when just one part of him survives. Cell and Gohan face off once more in a kamehameha struggle, Cell almost winning the match, before Vegeta distracts him, and allowing Gohan to finish him off once and for all.
Broly is obviously stronger than Perfect Cell. Point and case. Dabura is stated to be as strong as Cell. Gohan, as a SSJ2, was as strong as Dabura, if not stronger. Gohan was weaker than when he fought Cell. Meaning, Gohan as a SSJ2, is now weaker than Super Perfect Cell, but still a match for him, so he equals Perfect Cell. Broly, in the second movie, was shown to completely outmatch SSJ2 Gohan, with very very little difficulty. Broly also completely dominated SSJ Goku, Gohan, and Goten in a beam struggle, and would have won, if it weren't for plot devices. He is NOT a galaxy buster, as the first movie takes place in the South Galaxy. He is a dangerous force however. He does not have any formal training, however, he is very tough, and relentless.
Cell, at his strongest, could be as strong as Base Form Super Buu, but far stronger than both Kid Buu, and Majin Buu. Why? WHAT?! HOWOOWOOWWOOWOWOWOW?! Simple. Kaioken. Cell has the ability to use any power from anybody he has cells from. He has cells from Goku, and thus the kaioken. The Kaioken is not to be used when you are in a transformed state, the power increase will cause problems and might kill you in an instant. However, Cell is not in a transformed state. Each of his "transformations" are nothing more than a new body, and the more powerful the body, the more easier/higher Kaioken levels you can use. This is especially so with Super Perfect Cell, as Super Perfect Cell is literally just a new body, since Cell died in his Semi-Perfect Cell form. As that kaioken has only seen to be x20, that's what I will use in this argument. Also, Super Perfect Cell is shown to be as strong, if not stronger than SSJ2 Teen Gohan. In the Buu Saga, Vegeta and Goku were stated to be as strong as Gohan when he fought Cell, meaning in their SSJ2 forms, they had become as strong as Super Perfect Cell. Goku, as a SSJ3, is only 4x stronger than a SSJ2, and completely outclasses Majin Buu and matches Kid Buu. If Super Perfect Cell uses Kaioken x 4, he could do the same thing to the Buus.
So who would win you might ask? Cell. Cell has the regeneration properties of Piccolo, which means, he would lose Ki when he regenerates, but coupled with Frieza's cells, Cell can survive anything and regenerate anyway if he has just one cell remaining. Also, Cell can also potentially multiply his power by 20, which could easily put him in the realm of crushing Broly. However, if Perfect Cell CAN'T use Kaioken, Broly has this easily, and if SPC, can't use Kaioken, this is a tough one to calculate. Super Perfect Cell and SSJ2 Teen Gohan isn't stated how much stronger they are than Perfect Cell, and neither is Broly. They are just shown to completely dominate Perfect Cell. Super Perfect Cell has the possibility of being stronger than Broly, and Broly has the possibility of being stronger than Cell. But, in a non-Kaioken battle, Cell has the advantage with his regeneration and Frieza Cells.
So, in short, Cell is the winner.
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Sunday, August 17, 2014
Friday, August 8, 2014
Vegito vs Gogeta
Today's exciting installment: Vegito vs Gogeta. This topic has hit the hearts of many DBZ fans, and I can't help but think, this needs to be blogged. By a professional blogger I would prefer, but I think I will suffice. ^^ First off, let me introduce the two contenders and their back story.
Vegito: The Potara Fusion of Vegeta and Goku. When Super Buu absorbed Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks and Piccolo to get even with Gohan, who had previously became the strongest un-fused character in DBZ, the Supreme Kai and Old Kai, along with Gohan's own father, became very worried that the 16 year old couldn't keep up anymore. Old Kai then thought of a solution to the problem. The Potara Earrings. These magical earrings have a special property to them. You grab a pair of them, and give one to a friend, and keep the other for yourself. Both of you put the earrings on the opposite ear, you left, your friend right, and the two of you will fuse. This fusion allow both fusees to be at full power for this fusion to take place, and add even more power to the resulting person. The only downside is, there is "absolutely no way you can turn back to your original self". Goku races to Earth with the jewelry in hand, to fuse with Gohan in order to stop the terror of (fan-made term) Buutenks. The earring meant for the younger Saiyan was dropped, and during the look for it, Buutenks lost a lot of his power due to Gotenks's Fusion wearing off inside of Super Buu's body. Flustered, the powerful foe absorbs Gohan, increasing his power by an unbearable amount. With no one to fuse with, Goku begins panicking, but as soon as he does, an unforeseen event happens. Vegeta returns from the dead to help the Z-Fighters fight Majin Buu. Goku meets up with Vegeta, and convinces him to use the Potara Earrings to fuse together. The result was the all powerful Vegito. This being is extremely cocky, but immensely powerful as well. After turning into a Super Saiyan, Vegito easily pummels (fan-made term) Buuhan, eventually coaxing him into absorbing the most powerful fighter alive. Inside Buu's body, Vegito's fusion was terminated by unknown means, and Vegeta, being the stubborn guy he is, destroyed the earrings, refusing to become Vegito again.
Gogeta: The Fusion Dance Fusion of Vegeta and Goku. After a demon in hell had either broke or allowed evil energy to over flow in the "evil containment tank" or something, he became a large reality warping monster, something that only Super Saiyan 3 Goku could easily destroy. Once the large shell was destroyed, he morphed into a stronger demon looking monster, both versions known as Janemba, this one being the more dangerous of the two, as he was able to push back Super Saiyan 3 Goku with much ease. Vegeta comes to the rescue, and Goku convinces him to do the fusion dance in order to defeat Janemba. With Pikkon's help distracting the demon, Gogeta is formed, as a Super Saiyan, taking care of the demon in little time, which is good since the Fusion Dance only lasts 30 minutes if powerful transformations don't exist during the time period. Gogeta isn't seen again until GT, when a new threat, Omega Shenron, had began to over power a Super Saiyan 4 Goku. Vegeta arrives once more, and demands that a fusion take place, so the world will live on. This result, between two Super Saiyan 4's, resulted in the near invincible Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta. This version is extremely cocky, toying with the Shadow Dragon, but for a good reason. Omega launches a dark energy ball at the Saiyan, only for Gogeta to turn it into a light energy ball, expelling all the evil in the world. However, before he could kill Omega, Gogeta defuses, since the Super Saiyan 4 was too powerful for the fusion to last long, only a mere 10 minutes, forcing Goku and Vegeta to find other ways to kill Omega Shenron.
Vegito vs Gogeta: The long debate. I, for one, prefer Vegito in the strongest contender. Now, to back up my claim.
Vegito's Power: Vegito, in the GT Perfect Files, the canon for GT, is stated to be as strong as a Super Saiyan 4 Goku. It does not state which Vegito, just Vegito. It's either Base or Super Vegito. This means, Vegito has room to be either 8x or 400x stronger than Super Saiyan 4 Goku. His strength is defined, just a 50/50 on which he is. However, this is amazing for a Z character. At the end of Z, and the beginning of GT, Goku is shown to be as strong as his Super Saiyan 3 form during Z. Uub was stated to have reached the strength of Kid Buu during his fight with Goku at the end of Z, matching Goku, only in his base form. This means Goku is 400x stronger than when he fought Buu. Also, Super Saiyan 4 is stated to be 10x stronger than a Super Saiyan 3, making this a 4,000x base transformation. All in all, Super Saiyan 4 GT Goku is 1,600,000x stronger than base Z Goku. At Base, or Super Saiyan, Vegito, a Z Character, is equal to 1,600,000x base Z Goku. That's impressive.
Gogeta's Power: In the GT Perfect Files, Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta is dozens of times stronger than Super Saiyan 4 Goku. This can be somewhat slimmed down to some kind of number, but not an actual pinpoint. Omega was stated to be 10x stronger than his previous form, Syn, who was able to match Super Saiyan 4 Goku for a bit. This means that Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta is Super Saiyan 4 Goku x a number >10 that's not 12. If Super Saiyan 4 Goku's power was multiplied by 12, this means Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta's power would be a dozen times stronger, and that's not right at all. Dozens is plural, which means it can be a fraction of a dozen, or more than a dozen, which is why I said >10 but not 12. Ya know?
Now in the next paragraph, I will be saying "GT Gogeta" and "Z Vegito" and Blah blah blah. In the Buu Saga, after 7 years of training for both Vegeta and Goku, Goku and Vegeta were equal in power in their Super Saiyan 2 stage. It can be assumed, due to his rivalry, Vegeta will keep up with Goku. In GT, Goku is 400x stronger than he was in Z. Vegeta, logically, will be 400x stronger than he was in Z. And once again, logically, both Fusions should be 400x stronger than their Z counter parts.
Anyway, in a Vegito vs Gogeta fight, Vegito obviously has the advantage. Vegito's fusion has no time limit. Gogeta's has a 10 min - 30 min time limit. However, there is more to this. Like I said, a Z character can end up being 8x or 400x stronger than a GT character really says something for his power. In order for a GT Super Gogeta to be stronger than a Z Super Vegito, a GT Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta would either need to be 84x or greater than 4,000x stronger than Super Saiyan 4 Goku. 84x being that Super Vegito equaled Super Saiyan 4 Goku, 4,000x being that Base Vegito equaled Super Saiyan 4 Goku. Both are perfectly possible, but 4,000x seems far fetched. Now, if Vegito was in GT, then you would multiply it by 400. Meaning a GT Vegito would be either 3,200x (SSJ Vegito equaling SSJ4 Goku) or 160,000x (Base Vegito equaling SSJ4 Goku) stronger than Super Saiyan 4 Goku, considering a GT Vegito doesn't access Super Saiyan 4. If he did, a GT Goku would be 32,000x or 1,600,000x stronger than Super Saiyan 4 Goku. Vegito's power is easily stated. Gogeta's isn't.
So, in short, Gogeta's possibility of being stronger than Vegito isn't very good. GT is the easiest way to calculate this, as Vegito can either be 32,000x or 1,600,000x stronger than Super Saiyan 4 Goku if he existed in GT. Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta in GT, is only dozens of times stronger than Super Saiyan 4 Goku. He would obviously need to be a higher multiplier than Vegito's, but since it was only dozens, and not "thousands" it's not very hopeful for the Fusion Dance dude. I will not deny that it couldn't be thousands of dozens, but that odds of that happening aren't very high. Vegito has the most definite power, and the better advantage out of the two.
Vegito wins.
Friday, June 13, 2014
First Post: Bills vs Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta
I enjoy the fine arts of Akira Toriyama, the creator of the Dragon Ball manga. The Dragon Ball series has brought a lot of enjoyment to many people's lives, and has also sparked a few thoughts in said fan's minds. Thoughts ranging from, "Now, wait a minute.." to "Hey, who do you think could kick who's arse in a fight?" This is why I have decided to create a new blog. To explore some things that I have found on the internet, or have thought of myself.
Today, we explore a newest idea, roughly tracing back a year, who would win in a fight, Bills or Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta. Well, in order to come to a rough conclusion, we must look at both's history and feats. Shall we begin?
Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta, or abbreviated SSJ4 Gogeta, was created when Vegeta offered to do the Fusion Dnace with Goku in order to defeat Syn Shenron, who had previously absorbed the other Six Dragon Balls in order to become Omega Shenron. The fusion dance is a technique that allows two people of similar power, execute a special dance that must be done harmonically in order to create one incredibly powered being. The Super Saiyan 4 part comes in, from the fact that a Saiyan who has his tail, and access to the legendary Super Saiyan status, accidentally transforms into the Great Ape, or by looking at a Full Moon or Full Moon like object. The Great Ape must then regain control, and become a red furred, black haired Saiyan with insane amount of power. All of this exists only in the GT universe of Dragon Ball, nothing is mentioned of it in Dragon Ball Z. As such, SSJ4 Gogeta then becomes the most powerful character in GT. His traits include: Completely dominating Omega Shenron, at first with 3 hard punches that nobody could see, then with simple kicks and blows that would kill any other villain in one shot. Omega is stated to have power to threaten the entire universe, so that's one bad guy Gogeta is. However, due to wanting to rid the world of negative energy that Omega has created, Gogeta plays around in order to get the chance to do so, wasting a lot of his time that the Fusion Dance has. Normally, the Fusion Dance only lasts 30 minutes, but the more power the Fused character has, the less time they have. So, after finally ridding the world of the negative energy, Gogeta puts a good chunk of his energy into obliterating Omega with a Big Bang Kamehameha, but underestimate Omega's power, allowing him to survive. He tries another, but before he could, the fusion wears off, forcing Goku and Vegeta to resort to drastic measures.
More facts for Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta: 1. He only has a 10-15 minute time limit, as stated by Vegeta in the anime. 2. In the Dragon Ball GT Perfect Files, Gogeta is stated to be dozens of times stronger than Super Saiyan 4 Goku. 3. He was shown to have remarkable power and speed, completely out classing that of Omega Shenron, who has power to threaten the universe.
Bills, or Beerus, is the God of Destruction, introduced in the newest Dragon Ball Z movie "Battle of Gods". He is awakened only once every few years to destroy a random amount of planets, then is put back to sleep for a unprecedented amount of time. He has incredible power, being able to destroy a Solar System in a single shot. Bills has this fantasy, however, of wanting to fight the legendary Super Saiyan God. The Super Saiyan God is the pinnacle of a Saiyan's power, but not many people have heard about it. Soon, his master shows him footage of Goku fighting and defeating the tyrant Frieza, sparking Bills's interest in the Saiyan, hoping to be the one to fight against. He meets Goku, and issues him to a challenge, completely outclassing him in even the Super Saiyan 3 formation. With one simple karate chop to the neck, Goku is downed, barely alive. So, Beerus travels to Earth to see if anybody there knows of the Super Saiyan God, meeting the prince Vegeta and his friends. Knowing Beerus is angered easily, Vegeta tries to entertain him to keep him calm, but to no avail as Majin Buu refuses to share his food, thus enraging the God of Destruction. Gohan, Piccolo, Majin Buu, and pretty much every character begins to fight against Beerus, easily being thrown away and tossed aside like rag dolls. Vegeta puts up a much better fight, but is beaten as well, until Beerus smacks Bulma to the ground in retaliation for smacking him in the face for ruining her birthday party. Vegeta is enraged, and shows some resistance against Beerus, even drawing blood from a blow at one point. However, after Vegeta's rampage is over, Beerus is shown to be just fine, and begins to want to destroy the planet. Goku arrives, and asks Shenron how to become the Super Saiyan God. After achieving the state of Godhood, Beerus and Goku fight once more, being somewhat equally matched. After the fight, Beerus is declared winner, since Goku is completely worn out, and decides to destroy the planet again. However, being exhausted as well, Beerus only destroys a small rock and Whis happily takes him back home, to knock him out again for a few more years.
More facts on Beerus: 1. He is stated to be the second strongest character in Dragon Ball Z history, stronger than Super Vegito who previously had this title. 2. He is shown to be able to conquer even Super Saiyan 3 Goku with very little ease, and is stated to be able to destroy a Solar System in one shot. 3. Beerus knows the arts of Pressure Point finding, making it easier for him to defeat his foes.
Now, who would defeat who you may ask? Well, I believe Beerus would defeat Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta. In the Dragon Ball GT comics for "A Hero's Legacy", Vegito is stated to be as strong as Super Saiyan 4 Goku. Now, it's not stated which Vegito, it's just Vegito. This means that Beerus is stronger than Super Saiyan 4 Goku, in either way you look at it. But his strength can be glorified or dimmed down, based on which Vegito it is. I believe it's Base Vegito for these reasons: 1. Super Saiyan 4 is the Great Ape version of a Super Saiyan. Meaning, that it is a 500x multiplier of base form. 10x for Great Ape and 50x for Super Saiyan. This is the equivalent for 10 Super Saiyans. Vegito is formed from the Potara fusion, which adds the max power of both fusees into one character. Goku's max power was a 400x base and Vegeta's was a 100x base. Equivalent to 10 Super Saiyans. 2. Super Saiyan 4 cannot be equal to 10x Super Saiyan, as this would lead to Super Saiyan 4 being equal to 80 SSJ's and since Super Saiyan 4 Goku is equal to a form of Vegito shown in Dragon Ball Z, this cannot be correct. Also, if Goku rivaled that of his Super Saiyan 3 self in Dragon Ball Z during his transformation into Super Saiyan 4, this would multiply the 80 number by 400, further increasing the unlikely hood of being equal to Vegito. So, I believe that Base Vegito equals Super Saiyan 4 Goku. This means that Beerus is stronger than 50x SSJ4 Goku. SSJ4 Gogeta is only stated to be dozens of times stronger. It's not stated how much stronger Beerus is than Super Vegito, or how many dozens of times stronger that Gogeta is than Goku, but greater than 50x puts Beerus in a realm of incredible power. Gogeta would have to be at least 4 dozen times stronger than Goku in order to potentially rival that of Beerus. Once again, there is the 10 minute time limit. Beerus being as strong as he is, he could resist Gogeta for the time limit, then kill both Goku and Vegeta in their Super Saiyan 4 forms.
Now, if you have solid proof that Super Vegito equaled SSJ4 Goku, then let's put it this way. Beerus is still stronger than SSJ4 Goku. It's not stated how much stronger, he's just stronger. Same with Gogeta. So, this puts them in the realm of somewhat equal strength. Gogeta still has his time limit, however. In both scenarios, Gogeta does have the potential of being as strong, or perhaps stronger than Bills, but I do believe that it is highly unlikely, due to the above math, and the time limit he possesses. In the second scenario, he does have a better chance of being stronger than Bills, but this is also unlikely. Buuhan had power to threaten the universe as well, and Super Vegito toyed around with him. Also, Gogeta still has that time limit. My hands go down to Bills.
If you have an opinion on the matter, please comment on this post! I will look forward to hearing from you guys!
Today, we explore a newest idea, roughly tracing back a year, who would win in a fight, Bills or Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta. Well, in order to come to a rough conclusion, we must look at both's history and feats. Shall we begin?
Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta, or abbreviated SSJ4 Gogeta, was created when Vegeta offered to do the Fusion Dnace with Goku in order to defeat Syn Shenron, who had previously absorbed the other Six Dragon Balls in order to become Omega Shenron. The fusion dance is a technique that allows two people of similar power, execute a special dance that must be done harmonically in order to create one incredibly powered being. The Super Saiyan 4 part comes in, from the fact that a Saiyan who has his tail, and access to the legendary Super Saiyan status, accidentally transforms into the Great Ape, or by looking at a Full Moon or Full Moon like object. The Great Ape must then regain control, and become a red furred, black haired Saiyan with insane amount of power. All of this exists only in the GT universe of Dragon Ball, nothing is mentioned of it in Dragon Ball Z. As such, SSJ4 Gogeta then becomes the most powerful character in GT. His traits include: Completely dominating Omega Shenron, at first with 3 hard punches that nobody could see, then with simple kicks and blows that would kill any other villain in one shot. Omega is stated to have power to threaten the entire universe, so that's one bad guy Gogeta is. However, due to wanting to rid the world of negative energy that Omega has created, Gogeta plays around in order to get the chance to do so, wasting a lot of his time that the Fusion Dance has. Normally, the Fusion Dance only lasts 30 minutes, but the more power the Fused character has, the less time they have. So, after finally ridding the world of the negative energy, Gogeta puts a good chunk of his energy into obliterating Omega with a Big Bang Kamehameha, but underestimate Omega's power, allowing him to survive. He tries another, but before he could, the fusion wears off, forcing Goku and Vegeta to resort to drastic measures.
More facts for Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta: 1. He only has a 10-15 minute time limit, as stated by Vegeta in the anime. 2. In the Dragon Ball GT Perfect Files, Gogeta is stated to be dozens of times stronger than Super Saiyan 4 Goku. 3. He was shown to have remarkable power and speed, completely out classing that of Omega Shenron, who has power to threaten the universe.
Bills, or Beerus, is the God of Destruction, introduced in the newest Dragon Ball Z movie "Battle of Gods". He is awakened only once every few years to destroy a random amount of planets, then is put back to sleep for a unprecedented amount of time. He has incredible power, being able to destroy a Solar System in a single shot. Bills has this fantasy, however, of wanting to fight the legendary Super Saiyan God. The Super Saiyan God is the pinnacle of a Saiyan's power, but not many people have heard about it. Soon, his master shows him footage of Goku fighting and defeating the tyrant Frieza, sparking Bills's interest in the Saiyan, hoping to be the one to fight against. He meets Goku, and issues him to a challenge, completely outclassing him in even the Super Saiyan 3 formation. With one simple karate chop to the neck, Goku is downed, barely alive. So, Beerus travels to Earth to see if anybody there knows of the Super Saiyan God, meeting the prince Vegeta and his friends. Knowing Beerus is angered easily, Vegeta tries to entertain him to keep him calm, but to no avail as Majin Buu refuses to share his food, thus enraging the God of Destruction. Gohan, Piccolo, Majin Buu, and pretty much every character begins to fight against Beerus, easily being thrown away and tossed aside like rag dolls. Vegeta puts up a much better fight, but is beaten as well, until Beerus smacks Bulma to the ground in retaliation for smacking him in the face for ruining her birthday party. Vegeta is enraged, and shows some resistance against Beerus, even drawing blood from a blow at one point. However, after Vegeta's rampage is over, Beerus is shown to be just fine, and begins to want to destroy the planet. Goku arrives, and asks Shenron how to become the Super Saiyan God. After achieving the state of Godhood, Beerus and Goku fight once more, being somewhat equally matched. After the fight, Beerus is declared winner, since Goku is completely worn out, and decides to destroy the planet again. However, being exhausted as well, Beerus only destroys a small rock and Whis happily takes him back home, to knock him out again for a few more years.
More facts on Beerus: 1. He is stated to be the second strongest character in Dragon Ball Z history, stronger than Super Vegito who previously had this title. 2. He is shown to be able to conquer even Super Saiyan 3 Goku with very little ease, and is stated to be able to destroy a Solar System in one shot. 3. Beerus knows the arts of Pressure Point finding, making it easier for him to defeat his foes.
Now, who would defeat who you may ask? Well, I believe Beerus would defeat Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta. In the Dragon Ball GT comics for "A Hero's Legacy", Vegito is stated to be as strong as Super Saiyan 4 Goku. Now, it's not stated which Vegito, it's just Vegito. This means that Beerus is stronger than Super Saiyan 4 Goku, in either way you look at it. But his strength can be glorified or dimmed down, based on which Vegito it is. I believe it's Base Vegito for these reasons: 1. Super Saiyan 4 is the Great Ape version of a Super Saiyan. Meaning, that it is a 500x multiplier of base form. 10x for Great Ape and 50x for Super Saiyan. This is the equivalent for 10 Super Saiyans. Vegito is formed from the Potara fusion, which adds the max power of both fusees into one character. Goku's max power was a 400x base and Vegeta's was a 100x base. Equivalent to 10 Super Saiyans. 2. Super Saiyan 4 cannot be equal to 10x Super Saiyan, as this would lead to Super Saiyan 4 being equal to 80 SSJ's and since Super Saiyan 4 Goku is equal to a form of Vegito shown in Dragon Ball Z, this cannot be correct. Also, if Goku rivaled that of his Super Saiyan 3 self in Dragon Ball Z during his transformation into Super Saiyan 4, this would multiply the 80 number by 400, further increasing the unlikely hood of being equal to Vegito. So, I believe that Base Vegito equals Super Saiyan 4 Goku. This means that Beerus is stronger than 50x SSJ4 Goku. SSJ4 Gogeta is only stated to be dozens of times stronger. It's not stated how much stronger Beerus is than Super Vegito, or how many dozens of times stronger that Gogeta is than Goku, but greater than 50x puts Beerus in a realm of incredible power. Gogeta would have to be at least 4 dozen times stronger than Goku in order to potentially rival that of Beerus. Once again, there is the 10 minute time limit. Beerus being as strong as he is, he could resist Gogeta for the time limit, then kill both Goku and Vegeta in their Super Saiyan 4 forms.
Now, if you have solid proof that Super Vegito equaled SSJ4 Goku, then let's put it this way. Beerus is still stronger than SSJ4 Goku. It's not stated how much stronger, he's just stronger. Same with Gogeta. So, this puts them in the realm of somewhat equal strength. Gogeta still has his time limit, however. In both scenarios, Gogeta does have the potential of being as strong, or perhaps stronger than Bills, but I do believe that it is highly unlikely, due to the above math, and the time limit he possesses. In the second scenario, he does have a better chance of being stronger than Bills, but this is also unlikely. Buuhan had power to threaten the universe as well, and Super Vegito toyed around with him. Also, Gogeta still has that time limit. My hands go down to Bills.
If you have an opinion on the matter, please comment on this post! I will look forward to hearing from you guys!
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